No one has proof that I know of, that a higher power exists, yet

Opening Scene

Host: The room was dim, bathed in the soft, warm glow of the table lamp. The quiet murmur of the evening outside filtered in through the open window, but inside, everything felt still, like a suspended moment. Jack sat on the couch, his grey eyes lost in thought as he stared at the flickering light of the lamp. His fingers lightly traced the edge of his coffee mug, but his mind was elsewhere — caught between logic and the world beyond it.

Across from him, Jeeny sat on the armchair, her deep brown eyes focused not on Jack, but on the quiet world around them. She could feel the weight of his thoughts in the air, the questions he always seemed to carry. The silence between them wasn’t uncomfortable, but it was heavy with unasked questions.

Jack: (finally breaking the silence) “I was thinking about something Sandra Bullock said in an interview. She asked: ‘Where’s the science in that?’ referring to belief in a higher power. She’s right in some ways, isn’t she? There’s no proof, no evidence, yet so many people have an incredible belief in it. How do we reconcile faith with science?”

Jeeny: (leaning forward, her voice calm) “It’s an interesting question. Science is about what can be proven, about what we can measure. Faith, on the other hand, is about trust in something greater than ourselves. It’s about belief in the unseen. They’re different things, but I don’t think they have to be in conflict. The absence of proof doesn’t necessarily invalidate belief.”

Jack: (sipping his coffee, skeptical) “But that’s just it. How can you have such conviction in something with no tangible proof? It’s easy to say, ‘I believe,’ but belief is based on trust. How do you trust in something that has no physical presence, no solid foundation?”

Jeeny: (thoughtfully) “Is it possible that trust isn’t just about physical evidence? Maybe faith isn’t about the need for proof, but about meaning — the search for meaning in our lives. We trust because it gives us a sense of connection, purpose, and understanding in a world that often feels chaotic.”

Character Descriptions

Jack – Around 35, tall, lean, and a thinker by nature. His grey eyes often carry the weight of logic and reason, constantly seeking answers that can be proven or measured. His voice is low, reasoned, often tinged with skepticism. He believes in what can be seen, touched, and proven — the tangible aspects of life.

Jeeny – Around 30, with a gentle presence that contrasts Jack’s intensity. Her deep brown eyes reflect warmth, curiosity, and a quiet conviction. She believes in the intangible — in faith, in connection, in the beauty of life that isn’t always measurable. Her voice is calm, yet carries the depth of someone who has questioned and explored the world, not just through the eyes of science, but also through the lens of emotion and experience.

Host – The quiet observer, always present to see the thoughts unfold, to guide the flow of their conversation as it meanders through the complexities of belief and reason, science and faith.

Main Debate

Jack: (leaning forward, more intense) “You’re saying that faith doesn’t need proof? But isn’t that the issue? The world is full of people who base their lives on something they can’t see, something that can’t be measured. We base everything in science — from medicine to technology — on proof. So how do we justify belief in something that can’t be seen or touched?”

Jeeny: (calmly) “It’s because belief isn’t about physical evidence, Jack. It’s about what resonates with you, what connects you to something larger than yourself. I don’t think faith requires proof the way science does. Faith is personal. You can’t measure it in the same way you measure the speed of light or the weight of a stone.”

Jack: (challenging) “But doesn’t that seem like a bit of a cop-out? If something is important, if it shapes your entire worldview, shouldn’t there be some kind of proof? I mean, people live by their beliefs. They die by them. And there’s nothing to show for it but an inner sense of certainty.”

Jeeny: “But that certainty is real for them, Jack. Belief is a deeply human experience. People find comfort, strength, and direction in it. Just because it can’t be measured doesn’t mean it’s not real or valuable. Science deals with the physical world; faith deals with the inner world. They don’t have to have the same rules.”

Jack: “I understand that, but how do you accept something that seems irrational? Faith without evidence can be incredibly powerful, but doesn’t that just feed into the idea of blind trust? Where’s the line between faith and delusion?”

Jeeny: “It’s not about blind trust. Faith isn’t about refusing to ask questions or ignoring evidence. It’s about what you choose to believe in, what gives you meaning, what gives you hope in the face of uncertainty. Science might explain how things work, but faith gives us a reason to keep going, to believe in the possibility of something more.”

Host: The fire crackled softly in the background, and for a moment, the world outside felt far away. Jack sat back, his brow furrowed in thought, while Jeeny remained still, her calm presence unshaken. The words they exchanged seemed to hover in the air, tangled between the abstract and the tangible.

Round Two – The Role of Science and Faith

Jack: (more quietly) “But doesn’t science give us certainty? Doesn’t it show us the truth of the world around us? If faith doesn’t need proof, doesn’t that undermine everything science has taught us about the universe?”

Jeeny: (softly) “Science shows us the mechanics of the world, but it doesn’t answer the deeper questions — the why we’re here, the purpose of life, the search for meaning. Science can explain the how, but it’s faith that helps us understand the why.”

Jack: “But why can’t science and faith work together? Why must they be so separate? Why can’t we find meaning through both?”

Jeeny: (nodding slowly) “Maybe they can work together, Jack. But the danger comes when we try to impose one on the other. Science gives us knowledge of the world, but faith gives us a framework for understanding our place in it. Belief doesn’t invalidate science, it complements it. The two don’t have to compete; they just need to exist alongside each other.”

Jack: (pausing, considering) “I suppose it’s about knowing the limits of each, isn’t it? Science explains the world, but faith guides us through it.”

Jeeny: “Exactly. One explains the what, and the other the why. They’re not mutually exclusive.”

Round Three – Faith and Personal Experience

Jack: (speaking softly) “I guess what I’m struggling with is the idea that we all live by something that can’t be fully understood. People put so much trust in it, but without evidence, without science to back it up, how do we know it’s not just a comforting idea, a coping mechanism?”

Jeeny: (looking at him intently) “Maybe it’s a coping mechanism, Jack. But it’s a human one. We’ve always looked for something bigger than ourselves, something that connects us to the world and each other. Whether it’s faith in a higher power, in love, in purpose — we all seek something beyond the physical. And that’s not something science can explain. It’s something we feel, something we experience in our hearts, not just our minds.”

Jack: (nodding slowly) “I suppose it’s easy to be skeptical when you haven’t experienced something that requires faith. But when you see someone live their life with that deep sense of belief — it’s hard to ignore.”

Jeeny: “Exactly. Faith isn’t something you can prove or disprove. It’s something that lives in your experience. You can’t always put it into words, but you know it’s real because it shapes how you live, how you love, how you give.”

Host: The air between them softened, the distance between skepticism and belief closing just a little. Jack seemed to relax, his shoulders losing some of their tension as he took in Jeeny’s words.

Climax and Reconciliation

Jack: (finally, with a quieter tone) “I guess I’m not sure what I’m supposed to believe anymore. Science makes sense, but faith feels like an answer I’m not ready for.”

Jeeny: (gently) “It’s okay to be uncertain, Jack. Faith isn’t something you force on yourself. It’s something that comes, piece by piece, as you learn, as you grow. It doesn’t need to make sense all at once. It’s about trusting the journey, even when you can’t see the path clearly.”

Jack: (nodding) “I guess there’s a lot more to faith than I gave it credit for. Maybe it’s less about having all the answers and more about having the courage to trust in something you can’t measure.”

Jeeny: “Exactly. Faith isn’t about knowing everything; it’s about believing in something beyond what we can see.”

Host: There was a quiet understanding between them now, a shift that had taken place not through definitive answers, but through the space that had opened for both to see the complexity of the issue. Jack seemed lighter now, his doubts not fully erased but made more manageable. Jeeny’s smile held the warmth of someone who had offered not just words, but a way to look at the world through different eyes.

Closing Scene

Host: The fire flickered softly, casting long shadows across the room. The world outside continued, but inside, there was a moment of clarity, where both science and faith could coexist — not as competing forces, but as different ways of seeing the world. As Jack sat back, his mind quieter than it had been before, he realized that perhaps the journey wasn’t about finding all the answers, but about embracing the questions, trusting the process, and accepting the mystery that life often holds.

And as the evening deepened, the conversation slowly wound down, leaving both of them with more questions than answers, but a shared understanding of the beauty found in that uncertainty.