You do now have one in three people, as shown by the famous

Host: The room feels a little more charged now, as Jack and Jeeny sit with Anthony Holden’s words in front of them: "You do now have one in three people, as shown by the famous Carlton Monarchy debate poll, saying they want to get rid of the Monarchy. That was unthinkable even three, four years ago." Jack looks up from the quote, his brow furrowed in thought, while Jeeny watches, sensing that the quote has stirred some deeper questions about change and tradition.

Jack: (his voice contemplative) "Holden’s words really make you think about how quickly public opinion can shift, doesn’t it? The idea that a few years ago, it was unthinkable for such a significant portion of the population to question the monarchy, and now it's become a real possibility. It feels like we’re witnessing a change in how people view institutions that were once seen as unmovable—and it shows how public sentiment can shift over time, often in ways we can’t predict."

Jeeny: (nodding, her tone reflective) "Yes, it’s fascinating how institutions that once seemed so solid, so entrenched in tradition, can become the subject of debate. The monarchy, in particular, has been a symbol of continuity and stability for so long. But the fact that a large portion of the population now wants to dismantle it suggests a deep shift in how people view the relevance of such institutions in the modern world. It shows how public opinion can transform things that were once considered unchangeable."

Jack: (pausing, his voice curious) "I guess it also speaks to the idea of how tradition is constantly being questioned. People’s beliefs and values change over time, and as society evolves, certain things—whether it’s the monarchy or anything else—start to feel out of place. But what I’m wondering is, how do you balance the weight of tradition with the evolving values of society? Can something as historic as the monarchy evolve with the times?"

Jeeny: (smiling softly, her voice gentle) "That’s the key question, isn’t it? How do we respect the past and its legacy while still making room for change? The monarchy is deeply tied to a long history and many people still see it as a cornerstone of national identity, but there’s no denying that the world is changing, and institutions must adapt to stay relevant. Maybe it’s not about dismantling tradition, but about finding ways to make it relevant to contemporary society, to ensure that it continues to have a purpose."

Host: The air between them feels charged, as if they’re both grappling with the complexities of history, change, and societal values. Jack looks out the window, his thoughts clearly turning over the deeper implications of Holden’s quote. Jeeny, steady in her posture, watches, offering a silent understanding of the delicate balance between preserving the past and embracing the future.

Jack: (his voice quieter now, more reflective) "It’s such a fine line, isn’t it? Balancing respect for tradition with the need for change. And the more I think about it, the more I realize that what’s happening with the monarchy is part of a larger pattern we’re seeing with many established institutions. People are no longer willing to blindly follow tradition; they’re questioning everything—systems of power, structures that have been around for centuries. We’re in a period where change feels inevitable, but how we navigate that change is what really matters."

Jeeny: (nodding thoughtfully) "Yes, change doesn’t always mean tearing everything down. Sometimes, it’s about rethinking how those traditions fit into the modern world. Maybe we’re witnessing a shift in the monarchy because it’s no longer meeting the needs or expectations of today’s society. But it’s still rooted in history—and maybe the challenge is how to honor that history while making it relevant for the future."

Host: The room is quiet now, filled with a deeper understanding of how change works in society, how institutions once thought of as permanent can be questioned as the world evolves. Jack and Jeeny sit with the weight of the conversation, reflecting on the delicate balance between honoring the past and making space for the future. The world outside continues to change, but the clarity of their thoughts remains steady in the quiet room.